Lynn has invested much of her life into seeing ministries in the epicenter flourish and humanitarian relief efforts reach those who need it the most, specifically in the area of women and children. Lynn developed and co led a women in leadership studies program at One For Israel Bible College in Tanya Israel and teaches women throughout the believing community in Israel from both an Arab and Jewish background. For those individuals who are both Arabs and Jewish, individuals, she teaches both. She and Joel are dual US Israeli citizens Who moved to Jerusalem with their 4 teenage boys and currently live in Jerusalem where we are hearing a lot about on the news. And that’s why I thought it would just be an incredibly timely special message for all of you to get to hear from Lynn Rosenberg. So welcome, Lynn.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:01:55]:
Thank you. It’s such a joy to be with you. I’ve enjoyed listening to these podcasts, and I wasn’t imagining being on it. So it’s Pretty fun.
Kim Moeller [00:02:02]:
Oh, it’s so fun, and I just feel like you’re gonna give the listeners such a feeling and an idea of what it actually feels to be an American citizen living in Israel right now with All that’s happened over this past week, we’re recording this just 3 days before the day that this podcast is released. So The terror attacks happened 7 days ago, and I just think as we think about, you know, just this category of this podcast Called The Generous Girl and we think of generosity and we think of somebody giving of their time, their talents, their treasure. I feel like you in your entire life have really done that and you have given of each of those categories. And I know many people know you, but there are a lot of people who don’t know you. So that’s the purpose of this podcast is to allow women Around the world, around the country to get to know Lynn Rosenberg better, and I think they’re gonna be encouraged and inspired and then figure out In their own lives, wherever they live, okay, what does God want me to do with the information that I’ve heard? So welcome, welcome, welcome. So Why don’t we start with just I know you’re from the East Coast and and you have your 4 boys and you and Joel relocated there to Jerusalem, but I have 4 kids as well and I remember when you did that I saw it first on Facebook and I thought, wow, I can’t imagine doing that at the ages of your kids when they’re all in club soccer and they’re all tied into the schools. And I know that just involved so much courage to do that, and yet it was also so much obedience because you really felt called to make that move. So how How about if you could unpack that for the listener? What did that look like for you and why? Why Israel? Why did you move there?
Lynn Rosenberg [00:03:57]:
Yeah. My boys ask that question a lot. Why did we move here? Yeah. Well, I did grow up in New Jersey on the East Coast, but started my married life right as a newlywed in Washington DC area, and so that’s where We had our 4 sons and where we raised them, and we were there for, 24 years before we moved to Israel. So That was really home. You know, we had a wonderful church and wonderful community and wonderful ministry. We loved our life there. So leaving Was definitely not easy with something we prayed about for a long, long time.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:04:33]:
I was really blessed to be able to homeschool my kids For most of their education, and so we started every morning with family devotions. And we know we’re super Privileged because Joel was a writer, so he was home, and he so we really could have, like, a family devotions from 9 to 10 every day. Mhmm. And that was such a blessing, and it was really in those hours that we’ve talked and prayed with the kids about, you know, we really feel like God’s Calling us to Israel, we feel like we’re supposed to move there. And that would mean a lot for them, not just uprooting, but to become citizens, you know, not just so And, b, visitors, we’d been to Israel since they were all babies. You know, we had a heart for this part of the world Since we were in college, when Joel and I met in university, at Syracuse University, and I was a Jewish studies minor. So Israel’s been part of our life since the beginning of our marriage and Since the beginning of our family, so it’s not like the boys thought, what, Israel? You know, why would we do that? They they’ve been coming for Summer is in for a month at a time or a week at a time, taking groups. So when we both really, Joel and I separately felt like We had the green light to go.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:05:42]:
We didn’t just sort of announce it to the kids. We we said to them, you know, this is what we think God’s calling us to do, but we want you all to be part of this decision. So they all, you know, we all had lots of discussions and they were all on board. We like to say that the honeymoon period was basically the flight over. By the time we landed, you know, we had such excitement, and we love this land. It’s a beautiful place. We have great memories here, but it’s very different to to move and to suddenly set up house. The boys joined a youth group.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:06:15]:
The churches here are very small, and the youth group, when they joined it, they doubled the number of the youth group. There were only 4 or 5 other kids in the youth group, And so, it was just a whole new world for them. And it was hard, very, very hard. We always say we know why Abraham and Sarah didn’t have children when they came to Israel. It’s not easy.
Kim Moeller [00:06:37]:
How’d you do with the language? How’d your boys so tell everybody how old exactly your boys were.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:06:44]:
So when we came they were the oldest, Caleb, was nineteen, then we had a 17 year old, a 15 year old, And a 10 year old. So we had 3 teenagers and 1 10 year old, so it’s Caleb, Jacob, Jonah, and Noah. And, we had started studying Hebrew at the Jewish Community Center in Fairfax County. And so we had an Israeli teacher who we loved very much, and She, even came to our home after we finished all the classes at the JCC. We said, well, we need to keep going, so would you come to our house and keep teaching us? So we had some basics we could read, but when we got here, we did take what’s called OPAN, which is like an intensive immersive program. My boys are fluent. I would say we’re like the typical immigrant parents where we’re always asking them to translate for us.
Kim Moeller [00:07:33]:
They have the perfect accents.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:07:35]:
Yes. They’re amazing. I’m so proud of them. They really just do great. And, our 3rd son, Jonah, was in club soccer. You mentioned club soccer. I mean, travel. And his dream was to be in the World Cup and play on the US team, and that was just that’s a whole story in and of itself, how the Lord helped us get him into club soccer here.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:07:54]:
And that’s really how he was forced to learn the language. If you can imagine as a 15 year old running around on a soccer field, yelling, yelled at things in in Hebrew.
Kim Moeller [00:08:02]:
Cannot You
Lynn Rosenberg [00:08:02]:
learned fast. So you learned really fast. Yeah.
Kim Moeller [00:08:07]:
Wow. So tell Everybody, how 2 things, how this works. How does it work with the mandatory requirement of serving in the military when people are 18, both for Female and for males. And then how does it also work when you hear the phrase that someone, Quote, made Aliyah and return to Israel. I think that would be very helpful. Sure.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:08:34]:
So I’ll start with the Aliyah question. So Aliyah is a Hebrew word that means going up and, if you’re familiar with the Psalms of Ascent, we always talk about going up to Jerusalem. So to move to Israel and to become a new citizen of Israel is called making Aliyah, like, going up. So we did that because my husband’s father grew up Orthodox Jewish, and so his parents were both Jewish, and so we met the requirements for being able to have citizenship in Israel. So that’s how we did that. Lots of paperwork, you know, proof of, You know, bar mitzvahs and proof of Jewish burial and all those kind of things, a letter from a rabbi, so we did that process and we really expected it would be a Challenge for us because we’re we’re evangelical Christians who have this Jewish heritage, and so we thought might we might have to fight for this right. And yet within a few months, we got our acceptance. And so we knew it was a great confirmation.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:09:34]:
God was just swinging the door open and pulling us in because there’s a lot of people who Pray and work for years and never get citizenship here.
Kim Moeller [00:09:42]:
Mhmm.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:09:42]:
So we’re grateful for that confirmation from the Lord. And then, yes, When you come, if you’re a citizen of Israel or even if you’re a permanent resident of Israel, you’re required to serve in the Israeli army. Every Boy and girl, it starts in junior year of high school. You get your 1st letter. It’s called a Tzavarishon, the first call, and you go in and you begin to get tested, Sit psychologically tested, you get tested in your, in your educational understanding of things, like a general knowledge test, a language Test, a physical test, of course, and they begin to think just like when American kids in their junior year are starting to think, what college am I going to go to? What am I going to major in? Israeli kids are thinking, what unit am I gonna serve in? Because you really it’s best if you plan what what unit you want, and you try to fight for that, Rather than just allowing yourself to sort of flow with the system, so yeah. So our 2 middle boys both did serve in the military. Our oldest Ended up moving back to America because he fell in love and got married, and so, but yeah, it’s it’s a requirement of All kids. So as soon as you graduate high school, you report for duty.
Kim Moeller [00:10:52]:
Yeah. And which was so Unbelievable then after somebody served in the reserves to read just this past week, you know, and see the pictures of All the suitcases and duffle bags at the airport and the 1 man who offered to charge up to $500,000 on his credit card, and he paid For I think it was like 230 or 250 flights for anyone who had served and now is being called back and they lived in America, but now they’re going back to Israel to serve, and I read it was something like 300,000 people, you know, are being called back. And That’s a standard Yeah. It’s such a small But mighty country and and as we said, you know, you have all boys, but the women serve equally in Absolutely.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:11:39]:
They serve in combat units. They are with guns. I mean, they’re really on the front lines just like the men.
Kim Moeller [00:11:47]:
Yes. Yes. So how do you feel right now? I’ve been to your lovely home. And also, for the listener, my husband, Carl actually leads the nonprofit side of things that Lynn and her husband Joel founded called the Joshua Fund, which exists to bless Israel And the 6 neighboring countries. And so they’re working to really be the arms that lift up all those groups that are struggling so hard to Provide the humanitarian aid or education, help people understand more about really the the whole state of of Israel. So how how do you feel living where you live? Are you do you feel safe? Are you scared to death? Or, you know, it does feel like, As I’ve heard Joel’s podcast and television shows on, The Rosenberg Report, like, you haven’t really seen it like this before.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:12:38]:
Yeah, this is unprecedented. You know, the summer we moved here was 2014, and there was a rocket war then, So we moved during a rocket war, but the rockets that come out of Gaza are, they don’t have a navigation device. It’s almost like they’re Slinging them like with a slingshot. And so they’re not targeting anywhere, they’re sort of aiming them in a certain direction, but they They often even fly back on to Gaza and hurt the people in Gaza. So it’s a little bit like sort of like Russian roulette, you know. So every citizen in Israel knows where their bomb shelter is. We have a bomb shelter, one of our rooms is a bomb shelter so I think it’s 10 or 12 years ago that became a law that any new buildings would have a bomb shelter, like, made 1 room. So, you know, we have the bomb shelter window that we have to slide shut and seal up.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:13:31]:
And then we have, you know, on our phone, we have the app That tells us, you can set the app to just wherever your location is. So if you’re gonna drive somewhere, you might not hear the, rocket Sirens go off. Here in Israel, we have a minute and a half from the time we hear the siren go off till we can get into Our bomb shelter, which is actually a long time, people that live down in the south, people who live along the coast near Gaza often have 15 seconds, 20 seconds. And so they mostly, like at night, they just sleep in their bomb shelter because, you know, if you’ve got Children and you’re in your pajamas. So you just everybody, the whole family will cram into the bomb shelter because you don’t wanna be wakened up. You know? Some of these Communities along the southern border and along the coast, they have rocket warnings going off every 15 minutes, 30 minutes, hour. So my phone, I have it set so that this the alarm will go off if if it’s where I am, but my phone will vibrate anytime there’s Any kind of an attack. So I can see on the map constantly where the whole country is receiving.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:14:38]:
Because of the ministry that we do, we have Twenty distribution centers all over the country, and so we’ve got people and faces that I’m thinking of and praying of for constantly. We’ve got people we’ve helped evacuate out of there really because they’ve got little children and they just start to lose it, you know, they just Start to fall apart. Now here in Jerusalem, we’ve only had 2 days during this particular situation in the last week, 2 days where we’ve had a lot of rocket sirens. And one, you know, I had visiting family, my oldest son who lives in California now, he and his wife And her brother were with us. They were supposed to leave that night, Saturday night, and, of course, their flight was canceled, and then their next got canceled and on and on, they finally did leave by Tuesday, even though they sat on the tarmac literally hearing sirens go off and hearing the booms around the airport. So for two and a half hours they couldn’t take off.
Kim Moeller [00:15:35]:
But
Lynn Rosenberg [00:15:35]:
for us in Jerusalem, we were driving with them to get groceries that have been Quiet morning, no alarms, no sirens, nothing, and literally we were halfway to the grocery store and the siren goes off. So you drive with your windows down and you drive without a seat belt, which as an American, I’m just like, I feel like this is an immoral situation. I shouldn’t be driving without a seat belt. This is just terrible, but you have to be ready to jump out quickly.
Kim Moeller [00:16:00]:
Jump out quickly.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:16:01]:
Yeah. So sure enough
Kim Moeller [00:16:02]:
I saw the video in the field, then you jumped out. Yeah. You have to
Lynn Rosenberg [00:16:06]:
you have to park your car on the side of the road, you have To run to a field and you lay down and you hold your head like that, you wait for the sirens to finish and then you listen for the booms because that’s usually about a minute and a half After the sirens, till the booms stop, and then you’re supposed to wait about 10 minutes and then get back in your car. So, you know, I’ve never done that before. That was my first time this past Monday. And to have my kids who, like, you know, my my son’s wife, she didn’t sign up for that. Was just a tourist. You know? She was coming to see the Holy Land for the 1st time. Right. And that was that’s when I feel scared is is if if, for other people.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:16:45]:
I was so glad to get them out of the country. I’m sure.
Kim Moeller [00:16:47]:
It’s like when you’re watching someone else’s kids and you’re paranoid about your own, but you’re really more Paranoid about the watch of someone else’s kids if something would happen under your watch.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:16:57]:
Exactly. So, you know, I’m so happy the next day after they flew, they flew to Ethiopia and then to Dublin and then to DC and then finally got to California because the flights are just So just so vivid in such a
Kim Moeller [00:17:09]:
Ethiopia to Dublin. Oh my goodness.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:17:11]:
They did take Ethiopian Airlines, that’s how they got out. But, you know, I’m so happy when they were eating their California breakfast burrito. You know? Right. That’s not a problem for you. So, yeah, it’s your Children that you worry about, you know, we’re we’re empty nesters now. This is our 1st fall as empty nesters, and so It’s a new season for us and it’s actually so I feel a little bit less fearful, I guess. I don’t because they’re not Yeah. I’m not guarding these little people right now.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:17:39]:
Totally. And I I’m not fearful person generally. I’m sort of this cockeyed optimist.
Kim Moeller [00:17:47]:
With a lot of faith I know you have a lot of faith. Yeah.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:17:50]:
I just feel like the Lord is writing a great story. He’s he’s always been the Storyteller, the author and perfecter of our faith. And so I just trust him that he’s writing this story and it’s gonna be what he wants it to be. And so I’m just, You know, a blessed character to be in his story, so that gives me peace to know.
Kim Moeller [00:18:10]:
Yeah. You
Lynn Rosenberg [00:18:11]:
know, he knows the ending, he knows all
Kim Moeller [00:18:12]:
He knows how the book ends. Exactly.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:18:14]:
And there have been so many great chapters so far,
Kim Moeller [00:18:17]:
you know. Right. Right. I saw a bumper sticker and it said live a great story, And I thought, that is so perfect. And especially for someone who does follow Christ because each one of us Lives a great story when you follow Christ. And it might not be the story you would have written, but we know that we can have that confidence And the faith that somehow he’s gonna tie all the loose pieces together. So obviously, The listener can tell that the 2 pillars on this podcast with you are faith and family, and those are the ones I really wanted to to call out. But also, obviously, most listeners are not gonna be like you and be called to move to Israel with their, you know, their 4 teenagers.
Kim Moeller [00:19:05]:
But I do feel your heart for just discipleship and hospitality And how you and Joel have opened your home over the years. Before this podcast, we were talking about, you know, the women whose husbands have been called up and they have small babies and how, You know, you wanna be there and, and welcome them. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because I think that’s really inspirational and whether somebody listens and they’re living in Houston, Texas or New York City, and whether or not they have the gift of hospitality or not, I think it’s a Really great way of having that perspective of who does God have around me and what is he asking me to do to love on the least of those around me or, You know, the person who is in the house next to my house or my apartment, that would be helpful.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:19:54]:
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, Joel and I, my husband and I met in Crewe in college, and so evangelism and discipleship is sort of how we were raised, You know, to think about life, and so I think it’s the same whether wherever you are in the world, you know, to go and make disciples of all nations. I did always dream of being, you know, an overseas ministry, and I read all these wonderful biographies of heroes and but something Elizabeth Elliott said once, which Really always stuck with me and that is that, if you’re not faithful at home, don’t think you’re gonna suddenly become faithful, you know, on a foreign field somewhere. And so, you know, Joel and I had hoped to be in Israel. Early on in our marriage, we thought we were gonna move, and we ended up being in Washington 24 years. And so, you know, those verses about the older woman discipling the younger women from Titus 2 and Timothy where, you know, These faithful men, you’re supposed to go and find faithful men and women to pour your lives into, that was sort of what our life was about in DC, You know, was just having an open home and finding women that were younger than me that I could just Shepherd and love. So when we moved to Israel, it just became sort of a continuation of that. In our church, we have a young women’s a lot of young women.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:21:14]:
And I started a young women’s bible study because there wasn’t anything like that. You know, Israel is a very young church, so there’s not a lot of the sort of what we consider, like, the Staples of the church, like a women’s ministry director or women’s brunches or women’s bible studies, nothing like that at all. So I started this young women’s bible study and there’s about 12 women. Most of them are married with kids, a few single gals as well, some newlyweds with not Kids Yet. And that has become such a huge blessing in my life. I always say I get more from them than I think I give to them. You know, I think so often people think I can’t disciple someone because I don’t have anything, you know, to give and I’m not this wise person and, But it’s really, if you’ve walked with Jesus a little bit longer than someone else and you can love them well, you can do it, you know? And so, Yeah, the women now, I’ve got, there’s 3 women in the study whose husbands have been called up to service, and so One woman who’s got twin little twins and then an older son, and 1 woman that has 5 kids, including a little baby, And then another woman who’s from Germany originally, so she doesn’t speak Hebrew real well, but she married an Israeli believer and he’s off to fight up in the North somewhere, and so, just having them in my home and just having food, you know, sometimes it’s Like, you make a pot of chili, and you just keep adding tomatoes and beans to it so you can feed more people. It’s nothing fancy.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:22:42]:
That’s for sure. But that’s good. Israel is a very casual country, so no one’s expecting anything too fancy. But it’s really, been such a blessing to To open my home to these women. Yeah, so that’s kind of part of what I’ve been doing. Another thing that we’ve been doing is we work With the ministry here, like a pro life ministry, and there’s quite a few women who are single moms, you know, who had crisis pregnancies, who decided to keep their babies, and now They’re still in touch with the ministry, but they’re now alone in a war zone. And a lot of them, like I said, are sleeping in shelters. And so in these shelters, In these bomb shelters, there’s not toys or clothes or, so we’ve been gathering up toys from some of the believing women in Jerusalem.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:23:26]:
And just yesterday, we drove to Beersheba and delivered diapers and wipes and some formula and things to these about 200 women Down in Beersheba that are moms, you know, that are just living in poverty and living in fear. The woman that we met, that we gave the things to, she could hardly speak. We drove just praying and having our alarm on and We amazingly we saw on the map where we’re driving, and there was an alarm that the that it was being bombed in one area. By the time we got there, the alarm was finished. We didn’t see anything. We kept driving, and we got all the way to Beersheba. This gal Came out of her bomb shelter, like, literally just she could hardly speak and she was cry you know, teary eyed. And Anyway, we gave her these things and then we drove back.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:24:15]:
And sure enough, after we drove past that same area, it was bombed again. So it’s like we just drove through this Hello. Unbelievable. Wow. And there’s not anybody, you know, on the roads down there. There’s a lot of army vehicles and that kind of thing, but, So, anyway, yeah, that was an amazing experience yesterday that I never expected I’d be having for sure.
Kim Moeller [00:24:35]:
Okay. Again, I know we’re all listening going, you are so courageous. I don’t know if I would have done that. But I do just admire that about you, Lynn, and your faith. And prior to the podcast, we were also just talking about how, You know, we we all hear about Israel even prior to this happening a week ago, and there’s a book by one of the people who works for the Joshua Fund that he’s written called Why Israel by Thomas Fretwell Fretwell. You can get it on Amazon. But two things. Can you just at a really high level answer that question, like, why is Israel so significant? If somebody listening hasn’t Heard in their church or doesn’t really know.
Kim Moeller [00:25:16]:
I think that’d be really helpful. And then second part of that is what we were talking about earlier before the podcast, the importance because part of this podcast is the empowerment of women, the education so that women are more equipped To do whatever it is God’s called them. And I I think you have a great point of the more we all are educated about this, The more knowledgeable we’ll be, the more we can spread truth and love.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:25:43]:
Yeah. Yeah. There’s so much misinformation going on right now. I mean, not just right now, but, about Israel. You know, there’s so many people that either they don’t understand the importance of Israel where they listen to all these different news reports and they’re figuring out like any subject these days, we just have way too much information coming at us, and what’s true and what’s real and what should I trust? So that’s part of what we do at The Joshua Fund is to try to educate people, Both at the high level, like you’re saying, like, so theologically speaking, the fact that we know God has promised that these are his promised people that this is his promised land, his chosen people, that he promised to bless all the nations through them, you know, that we see that in the Abrahamic covenant in Genesis. And we know that the way he blessed the world through the Jewish people was through the scripture and through the messiah, Jesus, coming through them. And Then when we get to the new testament, that role is not ended. You know, we see that there’s promises for Israel that have not yet been fulfilled, even even promises in Ezekiel.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:26:51]:
We see the regathering of Israel predicted in a way that never happened until 1948. And then when the Lord did that And he raised you know, there’s the the in Ezekiel 37 and 38, we see the story of the dry bones being brought back together. We see then the the Lord is gonna blow his spirit into them and they’re gonna come to life, physical life and spiritual life. So we’ve Seeing the physical rebirth of Israel, we’re still praying for more of the spiritual rebirth of Israel. If you look in Romans when, Of course, Paul says, you know, should the Jews be forgotten? And he says, no, may it never be. Those promises are kernel that they hold on to, these promises of a land, promises to continue to be a blessing. We see it from Genesis to Revelation. So, yeah, I do recommend Thomas’s book, Thomas Pratwold’s book, Why Israel, if you wanna get a really great primer.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:27:44]:
My husband, of course, who I love his writing, my favorite author, he wrote a book called Epicenter, which is a little longer book, but it it answers that same question, you know, are God’s promises for Israel for today Or is it all in the past? There’s a movement, it has been for 1000 of years, to replace Israel with the church, And we know that’s not God’s heart, because if God’s promises for Israel can’t be counted on, then why would we think we could count on His promises, you know? If He breaks promises to Israel, Then he’s a God that breaks promises, and we know that that’s not the case.
Kim Moeller [00:28:17]:
That’s not the God.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:28:18]:
Yeah. But that’s not the God we serve. So, you know, The gospel is supposed to be it says remember Paul says that it’s for the Jew first and then for the the Gentile or the Greek. I love, one of my favorite bible teachers, Seth Postel, Taught at one of our conferences that we did for the Joshua Fund. He said it’s almost like you should you should translate it that it’s especially for the the gospels, especially for the Jewish people Because they have everything, the prophets Yes. The law, the word. It’s it’s like Chinese food is especially for the Chinese, but it’s great for all of us.
Kim Moeller [00:28:49]:
We all love it. Right.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:28:52]:
I love that. He he used that word picture at our conference and I thought, yes, that’s wonderful.
Kim Moeller [00:28:56]:
That’s good.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:28:57]:
The gospel is for
Kim Moeller [00:28:58]:
All of
Lynn Rosenberg [00:28:59]:
us, but it’s especially for the Jewish people. So we need to keep sharing the gospel with them. Yeah. So we’ve been very blessed to be called here To do that and really to be a light, we pray we are we’re a constant light for him, and there’s a lot of darkness especially right now.
Kim Moeller [00:29:16]:
Yes. Yeah. So how else can a woman become more educated? Like, any sites you’d recommend or any additional books to read besides Epicenter or, Tom Thomas’s or Tommy’s book?
Lynn Rosenberg [00:29:30]:
Yeah. So Joel’s book Epicenter, Thomas’s book. He wrote a 2 part series. One’s called Why Israel? And one’s called Why the Jews, and those are excellent books. Of course, The Joshua Fund has our own website with lots of educational Videos, we have a YouTube channel. There’s a ministry that’s just become part of the Joshua Fund called Near East Media, Where you can, you can look at allisrael.com for that’s more of a news site, so if you wanna follow the war and what’s happening, like, on the ground day by day, You can do that. That’s a great place for education. We’ve got a lot of great Jewish and Palestinian writers who Who contribute to that from all over the country.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:30:10]:
So it’s many voices, but they’re believers. So it’s coming from the perspective of how does a believer look at What’s happening, which is such a blessing. There’s not a lot like that that’s out there.
Kim Moeller [00:30:23]:
No. Definitely. And so the these links will be in the show notes And the reference to the Joshua Fund website would be joshuafen.com.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:30:31]:
That’s right.
Kim Moeller [00:30:32]:
So in conclusion, this time always goes so fast, but I always like to end with favorite bible verse, any current book you’re reading, and any bargain In Israel that might help in America who knows who knows who knows who knows who knows who knows who knows who knows
Lynn Rosenberg [00:30:46]:
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Kim Moeller [00:30:49]:
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Lynn Rosenberg [00:30:51]:
who knows who knows who knows who knows. But everything else, sorry, that’s actually my alarm going off that there’s a red alert. Not in Jerusalem though. And it overrides the mute button, so you’ll never miss
Kim Moeller [00:31:04]:
it.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:31:04]:
Sorry about that. And I’ll tell you, I’m just going to turn it off Right now.
Kim Moeller [00:31:08]:
No apologies. If you need to go in a bomb shelter, please do. It’s,
Lynn Rosenberg [00:31:12]:
it’s Tel Aviv though that’s getting hit right now. So Oh my gosh. It just is surreal, but it’s really, really happening. Lord be with those people. So, yes, I’m sorry. My favorite Bible verse is Psalm 51 verse 12, and it has been my favorite verse for a long time. It’s it’s, In David’s Psalm of of confession, and I think it’s just such a beautiful Psalm in general to pray like every day, just to ask the Lord, give me a clean heart. But that particular verse, it says, restore to me the joy of my salvation, and sustain me with a willing spirit.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:31:52]:
And I think that’s the only thing we really need every day is, like, we need the joy to know that we belong to Jesus. He’s with us. We’re his. We’re saved. We’re safe forever no matter what happens, and then, Lord, just sustain me with a willing spirit to do the thing that I’m supposed to do this day. And that’s If that’s, if I live like that, I think my life will be fine. I’m in the Lord’s hands and, you know, he’ll do his will through me. I don’t always need to know the big Sure.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:32:19]:
So that’s my favorite, favorite Bible verse. I love it. As far as books, I am reading right now a book By Helen Rosivier. I don’t know if you ever heard of Doctor. Helen Rosivier. She’s one of those amazing, missionaries who was in Africa. She’s a British lady, a doctor, A single woman and she wrote a book I even have here, it’s called, Living Sacrifice, Willing to be whittled as an arrow, my mother-in-law recommended her books to me. She has a lot of books, and she’s just Such an amazing writer, and I’ve been very convicted by her stories.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:32:57]:
It gives me Can
Kim Moeller [00:32:57]:
you hold that up? And and then we can like, if someone’s watching on YouTube, they can see. Okay. Perfect. Doctor Helen Rosenbeer, Living Sacrifice.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:33:06]:
Yeah.
Kim Moeller [00:33:06]:
And what do you love about the book, Lynne?
Lynn Rosenberg [00:33:09]:
I love the perspective that she gives. She’s so humble. A lot of what She’s talking about is how we think we have plans. You know, she was a medical doctor, and she thought she had these plans to go be this great Rescuer of people, and she ended up building the hospital, like, literally the bricks in the kiln. And she thought, why am I wasting my medical degree, Like, in a brick oven, like, working alongside these workers, and she got so frustrated. And one of the workers said, Helen, we When you’re wearing your white coat, she said, doctor, when you’re wearing your white coat and you’re in your stethoscope, we are afraid of you, but when you’re next to us in the brick kiln, Then you’re
Kim Moeller [00:33:49]:
one of us.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:33:49]:
And she was so humbled to realize, you know, we just have to be willing to do whatever it is that God puts in, and he’s the one that uses us In big and small ways. So I love how humble she is and how willing she was to she shares a lot of her her pride and her, like, her faults, and it’s really, wonderful. Just how vulnerable she is in her books. I I love it. Yeah.
Kim Moeller [00:34:11]:
That that’s a beautiful picture because, you know, when I think of Almost say the army of women listening to this podcast, other podcasts, wanting to just be all they were made to be, step into their calling, Sometimes it isn’t what we thought, you know. It is like we’re making bricks and we’re like, wait, but my degree degree was in this or I never thought this would happen. And so but can you imagine if you’re in the Lord’s shoes and you’re you’re trying to orchestrate this whole thing? You’re like, I know. I know. You’re not a brickmaker, But just trust me. I need you to do this right now. That’s right. But if she said no, then it’s like a massive gap, and he’s like, okay.
Kim Moeller [00:34:48]:
Then I gotta get someone else who can do this piece Because it has to happen for the overall orchestration to occur. Exactly. So, again, back to your bible verse, like, the willingness of our spirit, our heart to Do that and to have that clean heart to trust blindly because we trust the Lord and who he is, but it’s not blind because We know who he is and the scriptures tell us who he is and how much he loves us, and he gave his son to die for us. But the alignment, you know, of our Hearts, our minds, and and when things don’t make sense and then we do, we feel paralyzed. We don’t do anything, and then that’s not what we’re supposed to do either. So is that it’s just that fine line, you know, you mentioned Elizabeth Elliott, the taking that one next step when we’re overwhelmed of Just I can’t do anything, so I do nothing versus, okay, it is overwhelming, but I know I can clean the dishes in my sink. That’s one thing I have quote control
Lynn Rosenberg [00:35:42]:
over. Right.
Kim Moeller [00:35:43]:
I can take this person to the store. I can do, you know, just that next thing. That’s all, like, that he really is asking us to do, and he’s not giving us how this is all gonna look, you know, 30 days from now or 3 weeks from now kind of thing. Yeah. So it’s a tall order, you know?
Lynn Rosenberg [00:36:00]:
Yeah. Preach thing is to just sit down for a minute and pray and say, God, I don’t know what the next thing is. Right. Because sometimes we sort of get frantic and think I gotta do something Purposeful and then we end up filling our time and the Lord is such a prayer hearing and prayer answering God that When you sit and you just say, Lord, what is it I’m supposed to do next? It’s always amazing how he he brings an idea to mind. And sometimes it is true. I want you to rest, Or I want you to pray or I want you to just call this person or whatever. So yes.
Kim Moeller [00:36:32]:
And you just brought to my mind one thing I did wanna bring up in this Podcast and kind of a shout out to the National Christian Foundation where I work. Just today on their Saturday 7th email that they send out, they have a whole section on if you financially wanna get involved in Israel and that is something God’s speaking to you about and you wanna give financially, You you can go to that site and you can you can just go to ncfgiving.com and you’ll see where to sign up for that email. But they have a list of all these vetted partners. Joshua Fund is one of them, but there are a number of other partners as well. Mhmm. And many people Who already know about NTF have a giving fund and they can click that link and give directly there. Other people can sign up for a giving fund. Other people can Give directly to that organization.
Kim Moeller [00:37:18]:
I feel really grateful to work for an organization that, you know, this just happened a week ago, But so many people are clamoring to say, what can we do? I wanna pray for sure, but I also wanna give financially, and so how can I do that? So I love that they Just look for, you know, a list of these vetted organizations, and everybody, here they are here here they are all organized for you. You can Choose and feel like what God’s calling you, which one, you know, is the one he’s calling you to give. So, yeah, I’m actually really glad you just Said that point. Okay. So what about your bargain idea? And this podcast, Lynn, I wanna close with you praying. I think it would be beautiful for Everybody need to listen to your prayer and to join with you in prayer, so we’re gonna close that Weird bargain before we do that.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:38:06]:
I’m not sure if it’s a bar I guess it’s a bargain. You know, people always want to bring me something when they come, you know, from America to Israel because we have So many tour groups and everything that come and the 2 main things that I always ask for are Everything But the Bagel Spice seasoning from Trader Joe’s and pretty napkins. You know, my mother-in-law taught me that if you wanna make something just nice. Very easily and cheaply, you put some pretty napkins out. Even when you deliver a meal to, like, a mom or something and you bring her, I always put a Pack of pretty napkins in, you know, just feel like just take you just feel a little bit extra special if there’s some pretty napkins. But yeah. Trader Joe’s Everything But the Bagel Seasoning. I put it on all roast vegetables, toast, avocado toast, everything.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:38:51]:
And so it just makes everything better And it’s cheap.
Kim Moeller [00:38:56]:
That is a perfect, bargain because yes, we can get that when we live near a trader Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. And next time I see you, I’ll try to remember to bring a few of those for you. Yes. I will miss you
Lynn Rosenberg [00:39:08]:
at the moment.
Kim Moeller [00:39:10]:
Yes. So again, I just love that, you know, it’s nighttime, you’re almost ready to go to bed. It’s morning for me here as we’re doing this podcast. I love technology that it unites the 2 of us that If someone wants to listen to this on a walk, they can. If they wanna see us together on the video on YouTube, they can. But I think you’ve you’ve opened a window. You’ve opened a door into what it Feels like to live there right now as an American who has such a heart for Israel, you’ve given us some action steps of How we can get involved, how we can pray, how we can read more, be, you know, understanding. It’s it’s very complex, You know, obviously, and but the more we just take off bite sized pieces to learn more, the the more equipped We are then on social media or in our conversations to be, as you said, sharing the truth.
Kim Moeller [00:39:58]:
So thank you. Thank you. And it’s just such a blessing, such a joy. And I would love for you to close in prayer, and and then I’ll just thank everyone for joining.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:40:12]:
Sure. Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you so much that you are good, that you are The one who writes our stories, that You are the one that holds history in Your hands, that we can totally rest in Your plans, in Your love, And we know that no matter what happens, Lord, that You’ll never leave us or forsake us. And I do pray for the people of Israel right now. I pray for especially the believers who who are crying out to you for mercy for their country, for their families. I pray for the believing soldiers who are, sent far away from their families to serve and in such a fearful time. I pray that you would, heal the hearts of the men and women who’ve had to look on really horrific things. I think even of my pastor’s son who had to go in and see such just the remnants of really a massacre and,
Kim Moeller [00:41:10]:
Lord,
Lynn Rosenberg [00:41:10]:
I’m just praying for his healing, like, that his heart would be healed from what he saw. It’s unimaginable how to process it, Father, but We know that you are the one that is the balm of Gilead, that you bring healing, Lord Jesus, and so we ask for this Country, for all the people who don’t know you to cry out to you in this time of need. That this would be a time of turning to you, Lord. Lord, I pray for the people of Gaza. I pray for the believers in Gaza. We know there’s so few left there, and yet they are there, people that are our brothers and sisters, and so we pray for them and their children and in their churches, in their in the the Christian school that’s there, lord, that you just Please have mercy and protect them. Help them to be a light of courage to the people around them. Lord Jesus, Give us opportunities to give people eternal hope in the face of this fear.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:42:04]:
And Lord, I pray for us just To have wisdom moment by moment, Lord, to know day by day what it is you call us to do, where we should serve, where we should give, who we should call, What meal we should make, whatever it is, father, please give us ears to hear your direction. Give us Courage to be obedient and be willing and give us joy, joy in knowing you. So we love you so so much. I thank you for Kim. I thank you for The National Christian Fund and all that they’re doing and all the different ministries around the world, for the Joshua Fund and and all the people here on the ground, Lord, your people are Moving, and it’s exciting to be a part of your family. So I pray just bless this podcast, that it might move people’s hearts, and That, lord, your will would be done. We trust you. We love you.
Lynn Rosenberg [00:42:51]:
In Jesus’ name, I pray. Amen.
Kim Moeller [00:42:54]:
Amen. Thank you, Lynn. Just enjoy it. See you. Thanks for your wisdom, and we will be praying for you and Joel and All the interviews and all that is coming your way,
Lynn Rosenberg [00:43:07]:
and you. God bless. Thank you. It’s been really a Pleasure. It’s always so nice to see you and be with you, Kim.
Kim Moeller [00:43:17]:
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